of course not entirely different, i didnt believe i would have to be so specific. but yes, a larger fuell pump, and drastically larger injectors. preferably bigger lines...-10 and such, unless you just wanna be cheap and try and send that much more fuel through stock delivery... but youd need tuning and everything else envolved with running e85 on a motor thats designed for regular gasoline. but its just all in how efficient youd want the setup to be. me myself, i upgrade for whats necessary. others not always. and some may always think its unnecessary, too much money, or whatever the excuse may be. but i preferably like to do things as right as i can. and when youre building a motor thats supposed to make power, every investment counts if its gonna last. but thats just me i guess.

besides, you know i like to be efficient cole....youve even helped me out a couple times...and thanks for all that by the way.

I made 500whp through stock lines on e85. Fred has made 580whp through stock lines on e85. For all motor, they will work 120% fine. My current set-up is using a walbro 255hp in-tank, walbro 255 in-line, ID1000cc injectors, stock lines and will make +400whp (not turbo :D). Bigger lines do not make anything more efficient, it just allows for more power to be made. There is such a thing as overkill for most peoples goals.

No problem about helping you in the past ;D

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"Bigger lines do not make anything more efficient, it just allows for more power to be made".... thanks cole, thats exactly my point. good minds think alike. i always love it when more power is left to be made. thats just me i guess., but good luck on the nos build. it sounds like it will be a nice motor. im gonna use two fuel pumps also, but one of mine is gonna be only for the nos, a 200 shot needs its own fuel supply in my opinion., i mean it might be overkill for some people, but i just like more room for power to be made. im sure i could get away with one 255 walbro, but two is better.

You should look into running a dry nitrous kit instead of wet. There are much more pros then cons of a dry nitrous set-up compared to a wet one.

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It does not need its own fuel system. If you have a fuel system built for the power you plan on nitrous, you will only need one fuel system.

With a 200 shot, I would use wet, so you can use a progessive controller.

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Here is my opinion of dry vs wet nitrous kits.

Think about how simple a dry kit is compared to a wet kit. What can go wrong with a nitrous kit?

In a wet kit, if the fuel solenoid fails, your spraying 100+hp worth of nitrous with no fuel. In a dry kit, if the solenoid fails you bog from being too rich and you can save your motor. Not to mention less lines ran in the engine bay, less clutter is better. By adding fuel with your injectors you can tune the fuel side of the nitrous per 1000rpm(depending on ems).

To me, if i can use something simpler that also makes every part of using it better. I go for it. It is easier for the tuner and the owner to go the dry route.

Progressive controlers are not needed for what we do. We don't need to worry about doing a backflip because we sprayed 300+whp out of the hole(RWD). Two dry kits > wet kit with progressive controller. I dont see any advantages of that compared to a properly set-up dual stage dry nitrous system.

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Solenoids can hang open too. Maintenance should be done. Nothing is certain, things do happen.

Progressive controller have ramp rates (just like boost controller). I would rather have controller over how it comes in then just when it comes in. It offers more to be tuned and dialed in. You are limited by FWD.

I like dry better (it has made more power, have back to back dynos) but I would rather have control.

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I've read some stuff before about progressive controllers being abusive on the solenoids...

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oh they are. Maintenance is key. If you are going fast, you should be checking things over.

Different train of thought I guess.

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