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AS far as the block goes, just let the machine shop do their job, if they reccomend something, just trust them and go for it. If anything ever happens to the motor, you did everything their way and they can tell you waht went wrong if anything.

What ems have you decided on? Pick something that can control a PWM boost control solenoid. This will make that 5-600hp useable on the street and give you a better powerband in the higher gears. Hondata S300 and Neptune are two ems's that do a great job of this.

Some more things to think about. E85 requires more fuel as you may already know. If you are looking for 600hp out of a E85 car you need alot of fuel. What are your plans for this?

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first of I just want to say thank you so much For your Time and help.

Ok now do you reccomend me sleeving the block or will the stock Gsr sleeves hold?

I've decided to go with the s300 but quick question on that (what's a PWM boost control solenoid?)

now with the fuel situation I what would you reccomend also? Running 93 octane or E85? And what fuel setup would I need to run either or.

Thanks again in advance.
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Old 11-04-2009, 08:34 AM
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CJUiCE one more thing I just noticed. In the pics of both the cars you posted you have edelbrock intake manifolds. I have a skunk2 pro. Is there a difference? If so will it affect my setup?
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first of I just want to say thank you so much For your Time and help.

Ok now do you reccomend me sleeving the block or will the stock Gsr sleeves hold?

I've decided to go with the s300 but quick question on that (what's a PWM boost control solenoid?)

now with the fuel situation I what would you reccomend also? Running 93 octane or E85? And what fuel setup would I need to run either or.

Thanks again in advance.
If it in your budget, sleeve the motor for sure. Stock gsr sleeves are good for 5xxhp but i like the piece of mind that a sleeved block provides. Plus if you ever want to get serious, you already have the sleeved motor that can hold 800+hp. The Solenoid is just that, a solenoid that your engine management controls. It adds or takes away pressure on the top of the wastegate to regulate boost.

E85 has its ups and downs. The best part about E85 is the power capabilitys that you can produce. People have made 1000WHP on E85. It is cheap, under 2.50$ a Gallon compared to 15$/Gallon for Q16. Now, for the bad things. If you drive the car alot, like 5 times a week. Going to the E85 station becomes a pita. I guess you can keep a small stock at your house, but you cant let it sit for more then a month or so(not exactly sure on how long it can sit before it breaks down). And of course the gas mileage will go down by 15-25%.

If you build a sleeved motor you can make 500whp on 93 with a proper combination of parts.

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CJUiCE one more thing I just noticed. In the pics of both the cars you posted you have edelbrock intake manifolds. I have a skunk2 pro. Is there a difference? If so will it affect my setup?
For under 550ish hp the skunk2 manifold works pretty well. It produces great midrange over the victorx, but im sure the victor x shines above 7000rpm. The victorx is proven on many 800+ trubo cars. If you already have the skunk2 use it and upgrade in the future if need be.
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And what fuel setup would I need to run either or.
As far as the fuel set-up goes, there are a bunch of ways you could go. You can run the Fab-w0rx Dual walbro intank set-up with some 1600cc injectors. You can run a high pressure(90-100psi base) bosch 044 inline set-up to some ID1000 injectors. Or you can sump your tank and do a weldon pump or bosch 044 set-up.

Is your car mostly a street car? Do you care about a loud fuel pump? What is your budget for fuel?
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What kinda of money are you working with, this WILL be a very expensive project with the power goals you have in mind my friend
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Ok so I will sleeve the block. And yes this will be mostly a street car. Now by loud fuel pump never heard a loud one so I'm not sure.

You said I could run on 93 octane with the tight combination of parts. What parts exactly would be needed?
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What kinda of money are you working with, this WILL be a very expensive project with the power goals you have in mind my friend
Yes I know. I got a second job just to do this. Lol. Silly but I really want to do this and do it right.
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Ok so I will sleeve the block. And yes this will be mostly a street car. Now by loud fuel pump never heard a loud one so I'm not sure.

You said I could run on 93 octane with the tight combination of parts. What parts exactly would be needed?
Fuel pump noise isnt really a big deal imo, but some people are very picky. What i said was you can make 500whp on 93, i wouldnt go more then that, although people have. By the correct combination of parts i mean, everything works well together. You have a turbo that is within your power goals along with a free flowing manifold and efficient everything. BAsically when everything works together with no bottlenecks. It is better to make power easier on pump gas with the correct parts.
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Fuel pump noise isnt really a big deal imo, but some people are very picky. What i said was you can make 500whp on 93, i wouldnt go more then that, although people have. By the correct combination of parts i mean, everything works well together. You have a turbo that is within your power goals along with a free flowing manifold and efficient everything. BAsically when everything works together with no bottlenecks. It is better to make power easier on pump gas with the correct parts.
Lol ok. I'm not that picky. So should I worry about fuel now or when the motor is done? Because I'm not really sure right this moment. But seems like I'll have no choice but E85 if I want to meet my goal.
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Your going to spend a lot Of money. Just save your money the economy is bad. I've spent a lot of money on my car and I'd rather have that cash in the bank.
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